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Thank you. This is True Crime Kit.

And we are fucking back, Joe.

How are you, buddy?

I'm doing great.

That's good. Remember what we were doing when we left Gary Hodnick in part two?

Like, where were we?

What was the story like?

Oh, who side are you on Gary's or the the kidnapped mentally deficient, poor black women. Who's sorry? Honestly, I'm, I am. I'm on the fence at this point. You're still on the, okay. That's, I mean, that's fair. Maybe by the end of this, you'll be on these, on the women's side. Maybe you'll be on Gary's side. I don't know.

I don't want to influence your opinion.

Okay.

I'm just going to give you the facts and then, you know, let the dust settle where it may.

Okay.

And when we left Gary Hodnick in part two, he actually had, and this is automatically going to make him sound

bad, but he had two women chained up in his basement. Those were Josephina Rivera, Sandra, Lindsay,

if you remember those two, Josephina, smart woman, Sandra. Yeah, moving on. He had a history of,

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