Hi everyone and welcome back to that UFO podcast. As always, my name is Andy and my guest on today's

episode is someone many of you will already be familiar with,

Professor Gary Nolan. Gary is the Ratchford and Carlotta A. Harris Professor in the Department

of Pathology at Stanford University School of Medicine and one of the world's leading immunologists.

Over his career, he's published hundreds of scientific papers, made major contributions to cancer research and immunotherapy, and built a reputation as one of Stanford's most respected and innovative researchers.

In recent years, Gary has also become a prominent voice in the scientific study of UFOs or UAP, bringing a credible data-driven approach to a topic that often sits on the

fringes of mainstream science. He's also the co-founder of the Sol Foundation, an organization

dedicated to advancing academic and policy discussions around UAP and related phenomenon.

Always fascinating, always thought-provoking and I'm really glad to

have them back on the show to discuss the recent Saul Foundation Sol Symposium, the third annual,

I should add, has thoughts on Skywatcher and has part in that organization and their progress.

We touch on Thi-I Atlas, we touch on whistleblowers, the ageclosure, and a whole lot more. So let me hand

over to the interview, folks. Welcome to the podcast, Professor Gary Nolan. Gary, welcome back.

Thanks so much. Happy to be here. Good to have you on. Now, it's been just over a week since the

Sol Foundation held its third annual symposium. I've already shared my thoughts with listeners in a previous

episode discussing my experience, the talks, the whole weekend, but I'd love you to start off

just by sharing your thoughts on the event held in the Lago Maggiore. So, I mean, well, the

feedback has been extremely positive, but like anything, you can have 99 great things in one,

let's say, constructive critic. And that's the only one that you remember because you want to fix that.

So I'll get to that maybe a little bit later. So I think, you know, the general purpose of the meeting was, first of all, to, you know,

acknowledge the fact that UAP are not a U.S. phenomenon alone and that there was a lot of,

there's a lot of worldwide interest in it, but not necessarily a lot of worldwide

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