I think the genesis of today's workday comes from the Industrial Revolution, right?

You know, Henry Ford was like, I can teach somebody to sit in this stool and turn this crank and we're going to make a thousand model teas and they're not doing anything with their mind so it's totally possible for

me to require that person to sit there for eight hours.

Now we still have this idea that we need to sit at a desk sometimes doing some really

high-level work and other times doing mindless inane

copy-paced madness. And there's no reason for us to be doing that anymore. It probably sounds crazy when I say that, hey, I think in the future we're going to be working four-hour work days, but the reality is, when we do really deep meaningful creative work, I don't think that we have much more than a four-hour bandwidth.

I personally can't give that much deep work time. Really, then that means that the

other time that I would have spent working would have just been doing mindless robotic type processes.

Why in the world am I doing that when there are ways that I can automate those things?

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