Hello everyone, welcome back to the Epic Gardening Podcast. Kevin here, we are joined

in the studio by Chris, my assistant who has been working with Epic Gardening for over

a year now. So Chris, you obviously are a pretty busy person for more than just the

fact that you work with us here. But you're trying to garden and you're gardening at, I would

say, a pretty high level for like an urban dweller, especially a year into it. And so for

you, even for me, it's funny because it is the business, but also there's so much else

that goes around like, for example, last week, just stuck at the Epic warehouse the whole

week, because that couldn't be anywhere else. And so the garden obviously weirdly had

to take a little bit of a backseat during that week, which was unfortunate. And so we've

both come up with some strategies for dealing with that. And I'm curious for you, so you've

got quite a busy life. How is that shape the approach you have to growing?

So I, like you said, I work and I have three kids. And it's really busy. And to be in the

garden and do it well, I really feel like you have to be in the garden every day. If you

go one day without going in the garden, you go back the next day. And it's like fully

smoked. I can't believe all you name it happen. We just talked about powder mail

to yesterday. And I just lost, I mean, just from last week I lost half the stuff on my

ceiling table. Yeah, just from one day of it was too hot and I didn't water it twice, you

know? Yeah, it's, it is a, it's like a, it's like a living, breathing thing your garden

and it takes the same amount of care. So I, like I said, the first season I made a lot

of mistakes. And I kind of streamlined it and thought about the things that I did wrong.

And I decided on a really kind of formulaic approach to gardening this year. Okay. And

so I did everything raise bid with a handful of containers. What kind of containers?

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