actually letting your yard kind of grow in a little bit or it's actually not bad. It might not

look clean, but it's one of the best things you can do to try to be like one with nature.

Welcome back to the Beat podcast. I'm your host today, Jacques. And today we're talking about birds and birds in the garden. And we have somebody aptly named Bird Lady Drin. Welcome Drin onto the podcast today who works with cool birds. And we're going to be talking about cool birds. We're going to be talking about birds in the garden, why they're actually good and why you should actually want them in your garden and all sorts of other fun things about birds. So I'd like to know a little bit. I see right behind you there is already a bird in view. It is a picture, but why don't you let us know what that bird is where you're at? And I'm also curious if you have any gardening adjacency. Like, do you garden at all? Do you have any history with it in your family or anything like that?

Yeah. So thank you for having me here. I'm just sitting in the office right now. This is our

bird conference room here at Global Harvest Foods. And behind me is a rose-breasted gross beak in all

of his glory. I think right now, yeah, he is eating a sunflower seed,

which is one of their favorite foods. And they're one of my favorite birds. They're actually

in tow. They're migrating south right now on the East Coast. So yeah, like right now is the

middle of migration. So it's really exciting. There's like thousands and thousands of birds that

are passing through. And he's probably one of them.

That's awesome.

And then how deeply, I know we were talking a little bit, but when it comes to gardening,

I think you said you had some family connection, at least in the gardening world, right?

Yeah, yeah.

So on my mom's side, my grandma always had like this beautiful garden and she would take

her wares to the farmer's market every weekend. And it's, she's always kind of been like a tough

woman who can do and handle anything. But the second she sees one of those tomato hornworms,

she about passes out. And so I remember being a little kid like grandma, and she'd be like, no, you know, kind of

torture your grandparents a little bit.

So I would say that's, that was about the closest I've been in my personal life with gardening.

I mean, I've always lived in apartment communities.

And so I've done what I can, which has been, you know,

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