Welcome to the intersection of faith and culture. It's The Wall Builder Show. We're taking on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. And the winning just continues. So many good things happening right now. It feels like every day is a good news Friday. Today is also a good

news program because kids are getting the right worldview, new programs developing all the time to

help replace colleges, which is what we need to do so they don't waste money for four years and

waste four years of their life and go get indoctrinated. So, you know, for some kids, it might still

be the good idea to go to college.

If you're going to be an engineer, doctor, lawyer, or whatever. But, man, I am loving the fact that more and more of

these programs are offering the same opportunity my three kids, three of my four kids, had the opportunity to do at Leaders Academy in Hot Springs.

And later in the program, we got Jeff Myers with us, who does Summit Ministries, which has a summer program, and they have

a Gap Your program as well. So it's going to be great to talk to Jeff about that. Tim, you've, of course,

taught at Leaders Academy, Patriot Academy. You've probably been out at Summit and a lot of these other

programs as well. This is really cool to see these new opportunities for families to not just do the

typical college route that just isn't the winning formula for the

future for most young people. Yeah, one of the things that during the summer when we do our

summer institute program, we, one of the things I will often point out to students is one of the

biggest mistakes that people make in college is we still base, at least parents,

base a lot of credibility, kind of value assessment on having it agree. And they'll brag about

what university their student goes to and if it's prestigious, et cetera, et cetera. But the reality is,

it's like, I think it's less than 27% of students that

once they graduate, they find a job in, not in the specific arena of their degree, but in the

generalized field of their degree. I think it's around one fourth. I think it's a little under 27%.

And this was from a couple years ago. I can't imagine it's improved since then. But most kids get a

degree and they're not able to do anything with the degree they have. They have to find a job

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