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To be honest, it feels a little weird, but...

You know, she came in at around 1,200, but I think we can bring that up.

His kid had no idea that you helped him on the ACT or the test you took.

And just so you know, he started talking about the side door approach you have. So we just have to say

we made a donation to your foundation. But saying that you work with those schools, I think that

might make this. This was when we did the test. The only one if you catch it is if you guys

I can give you the exact data of it. It's never happened. I can actually send that to you if that helps.

Throughout this podcast, we have reenacted real conversations that Rick Singer, the ringleader

of the college admission scheme, had with parents.

They've all been taken directly from the 204-page affidavit, and all of them make you shake your head.

But there's one in particular that we haven't shared yet.

First of all, he can get on the plane, like, according to him, he's like, I don't really feel

that bad. I think I'm okay. This is a conversation between Jane Buckingham and Rick Singer.

Buckingham is a youth marketing expert and author, who's written a parenting guidebook as well.

She's been described as one of the 25 most powerful women in Hollywood.

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