Gaming-inspired science
Unexpected Elements
BBC
4.4 • 565 Ratings
🗓️ 6 June 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
This week, get ready for a whole loot box of gaming-related stories!
First up, we find out about a video game that could give people the power to battle misinformation.
We also hear how scientists are putting harbour seals in front of a computer monitor to decipher how they navigate under the water.
And Dr Brett Kagan from Cortical Labs joins us down the line to tell us why he taught a clump of brain cells to play the 1970s arcade game Pong.
Along the way, we discover what happens when artificial intelligence tries to explain idioms, we learn about a tiny frog named after Bilbo Baggins and try to establish whether or not video games benefit your brain.
All that, plus many more Unexpected Elements. Presenter: Marnie Chesterton, with Kai Kupferschmidt and Leonie Joubert Producer: Alice Lipscombe-Southwell, with Margaret Sessa Hawkins, Imaan Moin and Minnie Harrop
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| 0:33.7 | Sounds. I spent last weekend not reading a book. |
| 0:41.2 | It's the same book I've not been reading for over a year now, |
| 0:44.9 | but whenever I'm on a train journey, I pack the book into my bag, |
| 0:48.9 | where it stays because I've also got my phone, |
| 0:51.5 | which has this game where I need to move different coloured blocks around a grid to get them out within a time limit. |
| 0:57.5 | And somehow, given the choice between book or game, I choose game. |
| 1:02.7 | I have given hours, possibly days of my life, to this game, and somehow I can't help but feel that I've chosen the fast food option over the wholesomely ad-free and intellectually satisfying option of the book. |
| 1:16.7 | But the game tells me I'm awesome every time I complete a level, and it turns out I am shallow enough to crave that. |
| 1:24.3 | I'm Marnie Chesterton from the BBC World Service. This is Unexpected Elements. |
| 1:42.1 | Unexpected Elements is a team effort and joining me at the controls today are some leaderboard level players from the world of science journalism. |
| 1:51.8 | Say hello, Kai Kip Schmidt in Washington, D.C. |
| 1:54.6 | Hello, Mani, good morning. |
| 1:56.0 | And Ready Player 2, roving reporter in South Africa, we have Leonie Jubair. |
| 2:03.1 | Hello. Hello, Saubona and Molwani. Right. So having just confessed that I have a little game that steals my life, |
| 2:09.3 | please tell me that one of you two does the same. Do you remember Snake? Yes. I don't think I've |
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