What's up everybody welcome to IJN GameSoup, I'm your host Damon Hadfield joining me this week is Jonathan Dornbush our news editor Sam Clayborn is here. Hey everybody and Philip Musin our Nintendo editor is here as well. Scoop scoop back at you Philip. We've got a great show for you guys this week. We're gonna talk about a rumored new Xbox achievements.

We're gonna talk about the world of health organization believe it or not they have a new ruling on the game addiction but first this is the most pro Sonic group we've ever had on this show. Yeah 75% of this panel likes Sonic the Hedgehog game.

I guess the 25% you like Sonic the Hedgehog games come on. I like them. Well, so I like Jonathan's wearing an abstract Sonic the Hedgehog shirt. It's a really cool. I like the aesthetics and like some of the music. I don't have much fun playing any Sonic the Hedgehog game though. Okay any not one huh. Yeah. What about you?

No, we begin this week. What second? We begin this week with an interesting question that was that arrived in the scoop mailbox this week the scoop box as we call it from a mysterious listener known only as M E M.

And it's a question that peaked my interest and even after doing some research I was not able to find a definitive answer for the question is what is the largest dollar amount before something stops being a micro transaction.

I think everybody understands what my crew transactions are but it is a good it is an interesting question what's what's the limit. Do you know what that app called make me rich or I am rich. No it was $999 and the guy sold six copies of it. That's really $999 and made about six six grand.

It wasn't the whole purpose of that app just to like make you feel rich it's like oh yeah I can afford this app and it didn't do anything right. I don't I think the app only gave this guy $999. Oh that was its main purpose. Yeah.

Yeah. Well for him I mean it worked out right. It worked out exceedingly well I think there's like people out there that just buy every game but maybe for like posterity sake like a library or something. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know why six people wanted. I believe there's a big six people who do that. Yeah.

Yeah. And Apple got a cut too but then they cancel it. I mean what's the I'm a little like off the whole mobile playground with like micro transactions and stuff like that but I feel like the standard for the most part ranges from like $9.9 which feels pretty micro right like a $9.9 micro transaction versus like $100 like $99 or something like that. That to me doesn't feel micro anymore. Yeah. So but it's been going on since I feel like the beginning of micro transactions. So. Yeah so horse armor. How much did horse armor cost in oblivion.

Wasn't like too much time. Yeah I think it was three or four dollars. Yeah. I think it was something like that. But if if if a piece of DLC costs $10 that's still a micro transaction. If it's $9.99.

So is the piece of DLC you're saying is an add on to the experience because to me it's sort of about like the what the content is because I've seen like story DLC that ranges from like three or four dollars.

And that we wouldn't call that a micro. No you would just call that a DLC add on to me like if it is a big enough story add on or gameplay add on to that extent that's where your game could be $2.99.

Yes well plenty of mobile games are $99. That's an iPhone micro.

It's a game right. Yeah. The official the definition for micro transaction describes it as a very small financial transaction conducted online.

Very small but still this is not very specific. Yeah because normally you would say it has to be in game. It has to be something that doesn't fundamentally change the game is usually something frivolous right like horse armor. Yeah.

Although more horses get its butt kicked before I got that horse armor. Yeah. No. Not so frivolous for him. Yeah. Right. How does the horse feel about it. But it sounds like to you to us. It's more about what the content is than the price.

I think that plays a part of it but also to me a micro transaction like I would not spend $80 for a single piece of in game content.

Well it doesn't matter. Yeah. Well I mean but we're not talking about whether or not you would know sure I do like that in my mind is not a micro transaction at that point that's just I'm buying a thing in the game.

That is a. So if it's a thing in the game it's a shirt. It costs 99 cents. Yeah. That's a micro transaction. 99 cents. Yes.

But if it's the same thing if it costs $80. Yeah. Now it's now it's not a micro. I think I think then it's a newsworthy micro transaction. Yeah. I feel that is someone. Yeah. You could argue I think on the content side that is still a micro transaction.

It's just an absurdly expensive micro. I feel like in order for it to qualify as a micro transaction it needs to at least cost less than the game itself did. Oh that's interesting. You know because like for a game for a game to come out and cost $30 but then have micro transactions leading up to like $80

that is what the players would be insane. Like that's not clearly micro anymore. So I don't know. What if there's just one micro transaction. What do you mean?

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