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Moral Maze

Gambling

Moral Maze

BBC

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.4623 Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Years of soft-touch regulation and the universal adoption of smartphones have created a “perfect storm of addictive 24/7 gambling”, making “the lives of two million people miserable” – according to a House of Lords Select Committee report looking into the betting industry. Its 66 recommendations include a ban on “loot boxes” in video games, which can often be bought for real money and offer a randomised reward; many see this as a dangerous gateway to gambling for children. It wants to ease the industry out of sports sponsorship; half the Premier League football clubs are currently supported by betting companies. It wants new taxes on gambling with the money used to fund addiction clinics. What, if any, is the moral equivalence between problem gambling and other forms of addiction to recreational activities like drinking and smoking? If it’s a public health issue rather than a matter of individual free choice, how heavily should gambling be restricted? Perhaps, because gambling addiction can often have a wider social impact, hurting families and friends as well as the addicts themselves, it should be compared to drug abuse. If that’s reasonable, why not just treat gambling like any class A drug and make it illegal? Gambling enthusiasts and libertarians see it as a leisure activity which offers harmless fun to the vast majority of punters. They believe there is nothing intrinsically immoral about the industry, although most admit that betting companies do have a duty of care to vulnerable clients. Are problem gamblers the hapless victims of a heartless racket or does that rob them of moral agency and free them of personal responsibility? Is problem gambling a disease, a moral failing or just the downside of freedom? With Dr Henrietta Bowden-Jones, Brigid Simmonds, Christopher Snowdon and Matt Zarb-Cousin.

Producer: Dan Tierney.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:07.7

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0:12.5

Good evening. Humans have been gamblers since the early Stone Age, but it's taken the internet, the smartphone and perhaps being locked down with time on our hands,

0:21.4

to turn a pastime into what a parliamentary committee has just described as a perfect storm of addiction.

0:27.7

There are approaching half a million problem gamblers in this country, the committee said,

0:32.2

and betting was making two million miserable.

0:35.2

It blamed soft-touch regulation and the shift to higher-intensity gaming online.

0:40.7

It's come up with 66 recommendations, banning so-called loot boxes in video games,

0:46.0

restricting advertising and sponsorship, and taxing gambling firms to fund treatment for addicts.

0:51.7

It's the age-old argument between individual freedom and protection from

0:54.9

harm. One side says gambling addiction, hurts, families and friends as well as the gambler, and

1:00.9

should be treated like drug abuse. The other, that is a harmless pastime for the overwhelming

1:05.7

majority of punters, a matter of individual choice and personal responsibility. So is problem gambling a disease, a moral failing, or the flip side of freedom?

1:15.9

That's our moral maze tonight.

1:17.0

The panel Anne McElvoy, senior editor at The Economist, the chief executive of the RSA Matthew

1:21.6

Taylor, the comedian Andrew Doyle, and the priest and polemicist, Charles Fraser.

1:26.6

Charles, there'll be something to say that this isn't a moral issue at all.

1:29.5

It's a medical problem or some sort of question of regulation.

1:33.0

Is that your view?

1:34.4

No, it's not.

1:35.2

I mean, the problem with gambling is often framed in terms of so-called problem gambling.

1:39.7

You know, the negative consequences of people losing.

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