Hey guys, welcome back to Young Heretics Conversations.

I've been on the road a little bit lately, and while I'm traveling, I like to drop these conversations

interviews that I've been having with interesting people, authors, thinkers at the forefront of their fields in the present day, because we're doing this long series on the Indiad, which I am loving. Thank you for coming with me on this journey through the great epic poem of Augustin Rome. But every now and then, it is good also to check in with what's going on

in the here and now and think about how these principles relate to one another. I am delighted

to introduce you guys, if you don't already know, Dr. Brian Keating. He is a friend of mine,

but more importantly, he's somebody working at the cutting edge

of cosmology, which is the study, the scientific study of the origin of the universe. And his

particular area of study is one of my favorite areas in all of modern physics, if I'm allowed

as a non-physicist to have a

favorite area, and that is he works on the CMBR, the cosmic microwave background radiation

that supposedly endures from the very, very first instance of the universe.

This is something I wrote about in my book, Light of the Mind, Light of the

World, which you should all order on Amazon if you haven't already, and give five stars, if you have.

But this is one of the most poetic, suggestive, inspiring ideas to have emerged, I would say,

in the last 100 years or so from physics, that in fact the universe does have an origin,

and in fact, there are traces of it still lingering in the air.

Even in your TV static, if you have an old-fashioned TV, there are traces of this ancient light.

And Brian is working on detecting, studying this light, looking for evidence of and about the origins of the universe.

I met him at a conference we were both at, and I could just tell from the start, like, this guy gets it.

He's super smart, obviously an advanced physicist, but he's also just a good guy. He's got a sense of humor. He's got a research

lab at UC San Diego, but he's also a great popular explainer of things. He's got a podcast called

Into the Impossible where he talks to just incredible guests. I mean, Andrew Humberman,

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