Let me tell you, being a pastor's kid is a weird gig. It was mostly good. It really was. There's this whole reputation that we have, you know, for kind of being turds and doing like, my dad's the pastor. I can get away with whatever I want thing. But I really don't think that was us. I've told you that before. My brother and sister are slash we're awesome. That's weird. I've never tried to formulate that sentence before.

For those of you don't know, my sister is wonderful and is thriving and momming and happily

married and she's just great. My younger brother passed away when he was 18. There was an accident.

So when I say, do I use the present tense? Do I use the past tense? My brother and sister are and were great. We're going to go with that. We had a wonderful time growing up together. And we beat on each other and did stupid stuff. And it got out of control and everything. We fought like any siblings would. But I don't think we were pastors kids turds. I think we were okay at the very, very worst.

And for the most part, I think we were decent. Every now and then, though, we had to do weird pastors kids stuff like entertain other people's kids that were starting to come to the church

who were maybe pretty frustrating to be around and mom and dad and the family that was there,

their mom and dad, they just be like, go outside and play. And we know what the expectations were

on us. It was keep it together. Don't be stupid.

Be nice to these people because it's right to be nice to people and also because, hey,

we'd like these people to go to church and, you know, be a part of what we're doing here. And that's

weird. Admittedly, that's an odd pressure for a kid to have to bear,

but I don't know. I don't think it was totally unfair either. I think it's reasonable to expect

a kid who's 10, 12, 14, 15 years old to be able to be nice to somebody else. And that's

basically all that was asked of me. So we'd have these

families over all the time. We were always doing hospitality. And it was mostly great. People

come over. Maybe we didn't hit it off and become best friends. But we get along and it'd be fine.

But then some other times we just did not hit it off. We didn't just resonate with the other kids

who came over or whatever. And I can't remember any out and out

brawls but I can remember some guest families coming over and the kids doing crazy crap

stuff we know we're not allowed to do and it's dangerous we can't do that our mom and dad

you can't jump off of that thing they're going to be you can't light that on fire they're going to be real mad. You can't jump off of that thing. You can't light that on fire. They're going to be super mad. Don't get me wrong. We did a lot of stupid things on our own too. But I can think of a few of these examples. And on one or two occasions, I remember some difficult family dinner visits. And we didn't get along very well with the kids and mom and dad could tell

it wasn't going well and we said all of our goodbyes and the guest family went away and the

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