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Gaia Vince details how migration will help billions survive in new book

NPR's Book of the Day

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🗓️ 8 September 2022

⏱️ 9 minutes

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The main argument Gaia Vince makes in her book Nomad Century is that in order for three to five billion people on Earth to survive, it will require a planned and deliberate migration of the kind humanity has never before undertaken. NPR's Scott Simon discusses this possibility with Vince as she explains how human kind has hampered the success of migration through "artificial bordering of nation states," and as she talks of the need to "rethink how we decide where someone is allowed to live" in order to have a chance of survival in a warming climate with extreme temperatures.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaung. It's almost numbing now how often I look at my phone and it's like, oh, there's a historic drought going on somewhere. And then look again and, oh, there are massive floods in a different part of the world. And then it's like, huh, some city is facing record high temps. It's clear that the world is changing.

0:22.5

And in order for us to survive, a massive wave of migration is going to have to occur.

0:28.0

That's the argument Gaia Vince puts forth in her new book, Nomad Century,

0:32.0

how climate migration will reshape our world.

0:35.0

And in this interview with NPR Scott Simon, she's frank about how

0:38.3

hard that will be, that it's a tough and difficult decision to leave behind your home, your

0:43.0

family, your friends, but it's a decision people around the world will be forced to make

0:47.9

one way or the other. In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life.

0:54.6

Distant wars, murky conflicts, diplomacy behind closed doors on our new show, Sources and Methods.

1:01.1

NPR reporters on the ground bring you stories of real people, helping you understand why distant events matter here at home.

1:08.7

Listen to sources and methods on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

1:14.5

Gaya Vince's new book delivers a message that is clear, sharp, and jolting. Large regions of the world

1:21.5

are becoming unlivable, she says, lethal for three to five billion of us. We can survive, but to do so will require a planned and

1:31.8

deliberate migration of the kind humanity has never before undertaken. Her new book, Nomad Century,

1:39.9

How Climate Migration Will Reshape Our World. Guy Vince the award-winning science journalist joins us now from London.

1:47.4

Thanks for being with us.

1:48.9

Oh, it's a great pleasure. Thanks for having me on.

1:51.7

One of your early startling sentences says, quote,

1:56.0

we already know which communities will need to relocate by 2050.

2:03.7

That's just 28 years away. I have to ask who needs to move and when. Yeah, it's pretty shocking, isn't it? But if you look at the climate

2:10.1

projections and if you look at our globe, temperatures are just going to become too hot, unbearably

2:15.4

hot for parts of the year. Sea level rise will cause too

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