Hey folks, Joyce Vance here. It's a special day for Cafe. We're celebrating the 300th episode of the Cafe Insider podcast. Thank you for listening to our shows and for creating such an engaged community. The legal news isn't stopping and neither will we. Preet and I will keep doing our best to help keep you informed about the most important legal matters in our country. In this episode, we discussed Preet and I will keep doing our best to help keep you informed about the most important legal matters in our country.

In this episode, we discussed Donald Trump's controversial nominations for his cabinet and other high-profile staff members, including Matt Gates for Attorney General, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for health secretary, and Trump's personal lawyers for other DOJ leadership positions.

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on to the show. Today is one of those days, we're going to spend a little bit of time

and talk about the personnel that are coming in in the next Trump administration.

And boy, it's been a doozy. I've been talking with people, Joyce, about sort of the four,

somebody referred to them as the four horsemen of the apocalypse,

but one is, I guess, a horsewoman, that after Marco Rubio was named,

there are some people like, oh, you can do better than Marco Rubio.

Like, no, you can't.

No, you can't, given the rest of the roster, that Marco Rubio has almost like George Kennan diplomatic status, given how great his stature is compared to some of these other nominees.

And of the sort of four horsemen, in the words of one of my friends, Matt Gates at DOJ, RFK Jr. at Health and Human Services, Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National

Intelligence, the DNI, and Mr. Hegsetth, as defense secretary, obviously the one that's most

in our wheelhouse and we'll spend the most time on is Matt Gates, but which one of those four

worries you the most and which one of those four, if any, might be stopped by the U.S. Senate?

So look, I'm going to take a brave stand here and say, I am stunned that we are not talking about Christy Noem, South Dakota governor, and dog killer, right?

The fact that that's not the headline here.

Because we can't talk about everyone.

I mean, that's a real problem in my view. And I don't think we should gloss over the fact.

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