What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to Off the Chain, simply the best podcast in crypto. Let's kick this thing off.

Gabor Grabach is Director of Digital Asset Strategy at Vanek, where he previously worked as an analyst on ETFs.

Gabor is one of the masterminds behind the $50 billion asset managers move into digital assets.

In this conversation, we talk about the ridiculous accreditation laws, what an ETF is,

why regulators are currently concerned, and how retail crypto projects will evolve over time.

This conversation is packed with tons of knowledge and insights.

Once you learn something, I hope you'll share it with your friends. Anthony Pompliano is a partner

at Morgan Creek Digital. All opinions expressed by Pomp or his guests on this podcast are solely

their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Morgan Creek Digital or Morgan Creek Capital

Management.

You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp as a specific inducement to make a particular

investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his opinion.

This podcast is for informational purposes only.

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All right, guys, this is going to be an awesome episode.

I've got Gabor here from Vanek, and we've got a lot to cover.

We're going to touch on all things,

ETF retail products and then some cool stories from your background.

So I appreciate you coming on.

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