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Political Gabfest

Gabfest Reads | The Seven Rules of Trust

Political Gabfest

Slate Podcasts

News, Politics, Government

4.48.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 December 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

David Plotz talks with Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales about his new book The Seven Rules of Trust: A Blueprint for Building Things That Last. They discuss how Wikipedia’s culture of assuming good faith and shared purpose became a model for building trustworthy digital communities — and what lessons that holds for companies, social media, and politics today. Wales reflects on how to maintain trust in polarized times, the challenges of AI-generated information, and why genuine civility still matters online. Tweet us your questions @SlateGabfest or email us at gabfest@slate.com. (Messages may be quoted by name unless the writer stipulates otherwise.) Podcast production by Nina Porzucki. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Think about cheese.

0:02.0

Make your thoughts cheesier.

0:04.2

Now add 100% chicken breast fillet,

0:06.3

Chipotle sauce and Amadea cheese melt.

0:08.3

And it's giving the new cheesy chicken stack at McDonald's.

0:12.0

Did we mention it's cheesy?

0:13.9

Cheese.

0:15.8

Availments at the 4th of Jan, 2026 from 11am.

0:18.1

Price and participation may vary.

0:19.2

Subjects availability.

0:20.2

There's a reason we re-watch Home Alone every year.

0:23.5

Merry Christmas, you filthy animal.

0:25.7

It's because the best stories stay with you.

0:28.6

And Disney Plus is where you'll find your next great story.

0:32.5

Whether it's fantastic four first steps.

0:35.1

We will protect you.

0:36.2

High power drama, all's fair.

0:38.2

Tell us your story.

0:39.1

Or brand new Percy Jackson.

0:40.9

That is just the beginning.

0:42.5

A lifetime of great stories awaits on Disney Plus.

0:46.5

Now streaming 18 plus.

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