This is a GabFest Extra, the 2013 government shutdown day 8. It's Tuesday, October 8th. I am Slate's editor David Plotz in our DC studio.

Joining me today is not John Dickerson, who's getting the day off, not from studying the shutdown, but just from talking about the shutdown here.

Instead, we have our other regular GabFest co-host, Slate Senior Editor Emily Bazelon.

Hi, Emily.

Hey, David.

Emily is a New Haven.

Of course, this was a busy day in shutdown news.

Lots of talk from both sides.

Not so much apparent progress.

President Obama held a long news conference.

Let's start with a clip from that.

Everybody out there should listen to the Slate political gab fest.

Thank you. And one of the great things is happening right now is that until this particular crisis passes,

there's a Slate Political Gab Fest every day.

I'm loving it.

It just puts me right to sleep at night.

I'm so glad to hear that.

Emily, thank you so much for joining me.

Emily Bazelon, Slate. We'll be right back.

Oh, wait. That was a clip of Stephen Colbert with Emily on his show last night. How did that get in there?

You were very good on the show, and Stephen was very nice about us. So, hi, Stephen.

Let's try again with President Obama. He used lots of home economics analogies to

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