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Welcome to the Eric Mataxus Show. Hey, for you Eric Mataxus trivia buffs out there,

Eric's Secret Service code name is El Jerko. Please make note of it. And now the man will deny it,

but it's true anyway. Here's El Jerko himself. My friend Eric Mataxus.

Thanks, God. You blew my cover. I'm the new Valerie Plame. Okay. We have something extra special,

very, very, very, very special today. I'm so excited. I'm sitting here with Gabe Segoyne,

first of all, Gabe. Welcome to the program. Thank you so much for having me on. I don't even know

where to start with you. The title of your book is Surfing North Korea and other stories from inside.

Now you realize that I could imagine somebody who writes for the New Yorker writing a novel called

Surfing North Korea. It's kind of like, you know, it just has one of those titles like it seems

exotic and and and then you want to know and what do they mean by that? What you mean by that is

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