Hello, Gabs, welcome to a special Gaben Jewel show for you, because you had a treat, didn't you?

You traveled all the way to Germany to meet Serge Gnabri and Nick Voltaimano on the same day.

On the same, that's right. I got to travel to Wolfsburg.

Fascinating if you're into urban planning and design the whole city built around the

Volkswagen plant.

But anyway, I'm not here to talk architecture and urban planning.

Right.

Yeah, I got to see.

I got to spend some time with Serge Gnabry, which was actually really interesting.

We talked about his kind of development as a player.

We talked about the fact that, you know, he's filling Jamal Mousiela's big shoes at number

10, which I didn't know this, but he, um, it was funny because it has about the

difference between playing out wide, which obviously he's done most of his career or indeed

up front versus playing a number 10. And he's like, he's like, well, but you know, I played

in central midfield all my life until they moved me when I was about 14 or 15,

which I was like, okay, so it was just a reminder as a footballer.

He obviously started playing when he was tiny.

Yeah, yeah.

And he was, so all his life, and he's 30 now, I think.

So that is a big chunk of your life.

Yeah.

For those of us who watch him on television as a pro, we think of it, no, no, you've always been a winger and a striker. So that was interesting. And what about Volta mater? Because I think for the people who listen to us in the UK, especially who are Pramelik fans, it's been quite interesting to see him coming to Newcastle. That was very interesting as well.

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