Joe's we normally do one hour conversations but we talked to somebody we enjoyed it so much

and it went on for so long that we've broken this up into two parts.

Yeah, for the first time in the Gavin Jule meets series really I think.

It's a two part.

You made history.

Yeah, history because that you're right is so interesting on his career, and that's very much the

life, the first part, what he did as a youngster, how he became a pro, and what he

wants to do next and his vision on the game and this is one of the thinking men's footballers I think and the second

part which will come out after this one is he's a lot to say he's worked with some

with the biggest names in the history of the game and he's a lot to share about them.

Go ahead tell us who you are.

I'm Ben Davis footballer for Tottenham Hottsboro and Wales and I'm a big fan of your show.

There you go! Great answer! Thank you. on I can exclusively reveal is that yeah he's Welsh but he lived in Denmark for a long time as a kid

Yeah, and for both of us who obviously didn't grow up in this country, it came later much later than he went to

Denmark but it's really good to have his opinion on moving abroad living abroad from

with a different culture learning a different, not so much a language,

but all of that being immersed for such a young age, also football wise, in a different culture,

different training, different mentalities, all of that and how much he enjoyed it or maybe not.

I moved to Denmark when I was 8 years old until I was 10, 10 and a half before I came back for secondary school.

My dad worked for a Danish company called Grumforce, which he had the opportunity to go and work there full time.

I think he was doing four or five days a week away from home, so the option came for us all to move there and it was a big change to move

to a country we didn't speak the language we didn't know really where we were going

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