Hey there. Welcome to Football with Grant Wall. Thanks so much for joining us. Our interview

guest today is Chris Winningham. Seriously, I'm not kidding. It's you. I wasn't prepared

for this. But before we get going, you can sign up for a free or paid subscription

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to support my work is by taking out a paid subscription right now. In segment one, Chris

and I will break down the soccer news. We'll have my interview with Chris in segment two.

Let's bring in Whitty. How are you, my friend? I'm doing all right. Before we recorded,

before we started recording, I said to you, I'm ready with questions for you because during

Levitard show, my head is sometimes spinning. So I read the email and it was one of those

where it's like, I'm trying to draw the key words and you feel like your brain is absorbing

it. But it turns out I knew there was an interview between us. I just thought that I was the

one doing the interviewing. Maybe at some point, Chris interviews Grant will feature on the

podcast. But today it is the other way round. I think that was very kind of you to prepare

to interview me, even though you didn't understand the email I sent because you were in

a rush with Levitard. I was flying back today from, this is Wednesday, by the way, from

Barcelona. Finally, home after two weeks went to Venice, went to Doha, went to Barcelona,

really good reporting trip. Very lucky to be able to do stuff like that, but also really

glad to be home and psyched to interview you. It is something that we should have done

a long time ago. To be honest, this is episode 202. It would be slightly presumptuous

of me to go, hey, Grant, I have a great idea for a guest for next Thursday. How about

me? So I feel as if as if I had sent you an email this morning, I'm the guest here.

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