Now, I want to offer the opportunity now to bring in our next guest.

And that man is Jacob Hornberger.

Jacob is the founder and president of the Future of Freedom Foundation.

And you might have seen me mention his excellent piece among many about what I mentioned

before, about fake charity through government.

And, of course, much more when it comes to the rip-off that is the social security program.

And so I want to welcome Jacob.

I believe Jacob is going to be there.

Oh, it looks like he's just away from the camera right now.

So we'll bring him in in just a minute, I think.

Oh, are you there, Jacob?

Yeah, I'm here.

Oh, great.

I think we don't have you on camera, but I think we get, you're just going on audio,

it looks like right now.

So we can go with that.

That's fine with me.

Thank you for joining us, Jacob.

Welcome to the show.

Well, thank you, Gardner, but I should be that. I can't understand why I'm not there with, let me see. Let me check on something here.

You've got a background and and your name, of course, which is great. But we do need your handsome face. And by the way, kudos to you. I recently got to see one of your

brief pieces in Spanish. Hello. Oh, there you go. Looking very, very familiar. I've watched

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