Brad and Mir for the Culture.

Love you, peace.

All right, so welcome to another episode of Brad and Mira for the Culture.

I am Brad Listy here with Mira Gonzalez.

Hello, folks.

And you can follow us on social media.

Mira is on Twitter at Miragunz.

I am on Blue Sky and Instagram.

And today's episode is brought to you by Random House, publisher of the memoir, Bibliophobia

by Sarah Chihaya.

I recently spoke with Sarah Chihaya on this podcast.

Bibliophobia is a really moving and fascinating memoir about Sarah, among other things,

Sarah's relationship to reading. And I recommend it. I talk to her. You should listen to the episode. Again, the book is called

Bibliophobia available from Random House. And to be clear, you did not talk to her on this podcast.

You talked to her on the other people literary podcast, which is... Well, yeah, it's all part of the same

podcast. It's one of my literary interviews, but Mira and I,

Mir and I don't, we don't talk about literary stuff.

I don't read.

You read your phone.

Yeah, I mean, I read all day long.

People are like, oh, young people don't read.

Then what am I doing on my phone all day?

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