When we interviewed women, I would ask, I would say, how did you even know, you know, in the 1950s and 60s, where to meet up with each other?

And they just sort of looked at me and said, we had this thing called a telephone.

Mm-hmm.

And we would exchange numbers.

And some women told of like sort of literally one woman in Mexico City was talking about being in a park and seeing a woman in a uniform and following University and the author, along with Joshua Nadel of the book, Footballera, a history of women in sports in Latin America.

This is our World Cup preview show.

Very excited about it.

Her name is Brenda Elsie.

So excited to have her on.

She's also the co-host of the Burn It All Down podcast, which I cannot recommend enough.

Also, I've got some choice words about the latest

developments in the Braden Bradford case, the young man who lost his life playing football,

or actually he wasn't playing football. He was involved in non-contact drills at Garden City

Community College in Kansas. In addition, I've got just stand up and just sit your ass down awards and

more. But first, let's go to Brenda Elsie. Brenda Elsie, Footballera, a history of women in

sports in Latin America. What made you tackle this as a topic? Well, Josh and I had both written

our first books on men's, the history of the

men's game, with some research into the women's game. And neither of us were very satisfied

with our own treatment of it. And it just felt like there was so much more there going on.

And we met one another at conferences conferences and we would kind of talk about

an idea for a project about women. And it just sort of came together. And we were very surprised

actually at how much activity there was over the last hundred years in women's soccer in Latin America.

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