If you like the gist, I think you do. I think you'll also like Risky Business, a podcast hosted by

Nate Silver and Maria Konnikova. You know them. They're journalists who moonlight as high stakes

poker players, though that might be misstating where their incomes primarily come from. I think it's

to poker. They talk about odds, incentives, and outcomes, and they talk about democracy.

You know, in politics, every moves of calculation,

and sometimes our leaders can make bad bets,

and sometimes we as citizens suffer bad beats.

Check out risky business available

in your favorite podcast app.

It's Friday, October 24th, 2025.

From Peachfish Productions, it's the gist.

I'm Mike Peska.

And this is funny you should mention with our guest, Ariel Elias.

Or is it Ariel?

That's one of her jokes.

So I first became aware of Ariel when maybe you did.

She had a clip, an incident where a Trump fan heckled her, which comedians have to handle,

and then a Trump fan threw some beer at her and she reacted quite well,

kind of changed the trajectory of her career. I coincidentally, I go to the comedy seller quite often.

I caught her set and she was winning and she was clever and I definitely wanted to have

her on the show.

Now, as I say, we have videos of all of these funny you should mention episodes and especially

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