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I remember when I first applied to the NIH for this, you know, my program officer was led,

no, nobody will ever give psychedelics as a therapy.

You're barking up the wrong tree.

You should be studying, you know, why these things are bad for the brain.

This was back in 2014 when Johns Hopkins neuroscientist Gouldolin was trying to get funding to study whether psychedelic drugs might be master keys for reopening critical periods in the brain.

I was like, no, I think this is a great idea. And if we're right about it, we're going to win the Nobel Prize. I want to get credit for having this idea right now. And will not change my grant to accommodate your view. And so I was very stubborn and I didn't get the grant and I didn't

get many, many, many other ones after that.

For Science Quickly, I'm science journalist and author Rachel Neuer. You're listening to

part three of a three-part series on the Science of Psychedelics.

If Gould was submitting the same grant application today, she'd probably have a much stronger shot at getting it.

There's definitely been a sea change in terms of the attitude towards funding psychedelics.

As funding opportunities for psychedelics science increase,

researchers are beginning to put serious thought into mind-bending studies

that previously would have seemed like fantasy.

Gull, for example, is currently seeking funding for a study she's designed

to see if psychedelics could be used to reopen a motor learning critical period that would

allow stroke patients to regain lost function. If it ends up being the taste that psychedelics

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