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Learn more at Visa. dot com slash visa direct coming up we are joined by camille foster i'm outside it's not your ears or your speakers the wind is blowing i apologize

we talk tariffs we talk tariffs. We talk

doge. We talk about the difficulty of consuming war reporting in today's era and a rather

epic grievance section with Ari's flight home from Japan, which we're all supposed to feel bad about.

It's a good one. You guys are going to enjoy it.

From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.

Good morning, good afternoon and good evening and welcome to the Tangle podcast,

the place you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking,

and occasionally some of our take.

I'm your host, Isaac Saul.

I'm recording this for the first time ever outside in beautiful West Texas, mostly because

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