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Now & Then

FTX, Con Men, and the Power of Grift

Now & Then

Vox Media Podcast Network

History, Society & Culture, News Commentary, News

4.93.7K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Following the collapse of the cryptocurrency exchange FTX and the undoing of its CEO, Sam Bankman-Fried, Heather and Joanne discuss the businesspeople and money-makers who have fallen hardest throughout American history. How do we find the line between the “con man” and the capitalist? Heather and Joanne talk about the mid-1800s origins of the “con man,” the loss of belief in financiers during the Great Depression, and the Keating Five scandal of the late 1980s. Vote for Now & Then in the Best History Podcast category of the Signal Awards: bit.ly/3WhbYWL Join CAFE Insider to listen to “Backstage,” where Heather and Joanne chat each week about the anecdotes and ideas that formed the episode. Head to: cafe.com/history For more historical analysis of current events, sign up for the free weekly CAFE Brief newsletter, featuring Time Machine, a weekly article that dives into an historical event inspired by each episode of Now & Then: cafe.com/brief For references & supplemental materials, head to: cafe.com/now-and-then/ftx-con-men-and-the-power-of-grift/ Now & Then is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Download the New York Historical Society's podcast for the Ages with host David M. Rubenstein

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to explore the rich and complex history of the United States and beyond through interviews

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with renowned historians and luminaries like Annette Gordon Reed, Billie Jean King, Eric

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Phoner, and Robert Gates.

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For the Ages, covers a wide range of topics from presidential biographies to the people

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who have shaped the American story.

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From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is now and then.

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I'm Heather Cox-Richardson.

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And I'm Joanne Freeman.

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This week, we're going to talk about a topic that, as you'll hear in the episode, on the

1:28.1

one hand, has a long history within American history, and not just in America, but has

1:34.8

been particularly in the news lately because of Sam Bankman-Freed.

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