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FTS: Vatnik Soup: A Conversation with Pekka Kallioniemi

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Original air date: June 19, 2023 Michael’s guest this week is Pekka Kallioniemi, a postdoctoral researcher working in the field of human-computer interaction at Tampere University. He is the creator and author of Vatnik Soup, a Twitter thread series (and a hashtag!) where he introduces pro-Russian actors and propagandists from around the world, be they so-called "independent journalists", politicians, military personnel or just regular grifters looking to make some easy money. As is typical with Michael’s guests, Pekka brings perspectives that you won’t hear anywhere else. Tune In! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today's episode from The Silo originally aired on June 19th, 2023.

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Hope you enjoy. Hi and welcome back to Foreign Office I'm Michael Weiss director special

1:03.7

investigations of the Free Russia Foundation I'm a senior correspondent at

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Yahoo News. This week we are joined by Pekka Valleonie

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Emmy I think I've got that right he is a Finnish postdoctoral

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researcher in internet excuse me interactive technology and he is also the

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creator and curator of Vatnik soup, which is a running digest of all the

1:26.7

Kremlin's agents of influence, fellow travelers, useful idiots, whatever term of

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art you choose to use.

1:33.0

Pek is a long time friend and associate, I suppose, in the information space, I guess, about the

1:39.2

war on Ukraine.

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And it's great to have you on, my friend. Thank you. It's nice to be here.

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And listen, I mean a lot of people have taken an enormous interest in what you've done

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and we've had conversations offline about, you know, your exposies on social media of various

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actors, some of them incredibly well known.

2:00.4

I think you've done Donald Trump, you've done Elon Musk, you've done Donald Trump you've done Elon Musk you've done a host of

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