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I'm Zoe Thank you very much for your support.

I'm Zoe Weinberg and this is Next In Foreign Policy.

The podcast where the next generation of national security and foreign policy leaders talk about the issues of today and tomorrow.

This week we are joined by Ben Coleman.

Ben is the founder of Reality Defender, a deep fake detection platform and over the past 15 years he scaled multiple companies at the intersection of cyber security and data science.

He's also led cybersecurity commercialization at Goldman and worked at Google.

And in full disclosure, I am an investor in reality defender.

I've been really excited to watch its progress over the past couple years.

Ben, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Zoe, really excited to be here.

So Ben, usually we start by hearing

about how guests became interested in their current field of work.

But this time I want to dive into a topic that is very timely.

Last week, as many people might have seen, a photo emerged that appeared to show that there was some sort of attack at the Pentagon and it caused a brief market selloff and went viral on Twitter, but it turns out it wasn't real.

Ben, can you tell us more about what happened and what the fallout looked like?

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