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FTC chair Lina Khan is Kicking A** and Taking Names

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🗓️ 15 November 2023

⏱️ 19 minutes

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18 minutes with FTC chair Lina Khan

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0:00.0

This is the O.T. Middweek podcast. I'm Michael Lohanger.

0:05.0

As we've discussed on the show many times, most recently with Kory Doctoro in our series

0:10.3

and bleepification, Amazon has been inserting itself into seemingly every facet of our lives.

0:17.3

All while using its status as a monopoly in the market to squash competition, take advantage of its users, and skew prices for everyone.

0:26.8

At the end of our series, Dr. O described how he's placed his hope in Lena Khan, the chair

0:32.3

of the Federal Trade Commission.

0:34.8

In this midweek episode, we're airing a conversation our colleague and host of the New Yorker

0:39.9

radio hour David Remnick had with Lena Khan about her plan to sue Amazon for violating antitrust laws.

0:48.0

Here's David.

0:50.0

You've been involved in investigating, thinking about Amazon and Antitrust for a very long time.

0:57.3

And I wonder if there's a historical analogy for Amazon's position in the market now, whether

1:02.3

it's in the 19th century or the 20th century.

1:05.0

You're absolutely right that there have been moments over the last century

1:09.0

where the United States has similarly confronted monopolies

1:12.0

that have captured control over key distribution channels or

1:16.4

key arteries of commerce.

1:18.8

If you look at the various anti-gress lawsuits that the FTC or the Department of Justice have brought over the last century.

1:26.1

You can think about standard oil, you can think about AT&T.

1:30.3

There are various companies that similarly have established a monopoly position that ultimately the United States determined was unlawful.

1:38.0

And Amazon is now using this monopoly power in ways that hurt both sets of customers, both the consumers

1:47.1

as well as the merchants.

1:49.6

Amazon has steadily been hiking the fees that it charges merchants, that's effectively a 50% Amazon tax.

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