I, along with millions of other Americans, tuned into the Joe Rogan episode featuring Dave Smith

and Douglas Murray.

I was hoping to find good arguments, new perspectives, and information that would help me better

understand the Israel-Palestine conflict.

And what I found there was smears, credential arguments, and a strange lack of anything

substantial to really help me understand what's going on.

And while I was feeling this way,

I was struck by this article I saw by Jason Jones called Forgive Douglas Murray for he knows not

what he does. And this struck me for a few reasons. One, as an American just observing from the

outside, it really seemed like Douglas wasn't very sincere and wasn't actually there to make good arguments or discuss

the problems at hand that he was sent in there to actually quash discussion. And number two,

Jason Jones satisfies Douglas Murray's biggest argument and meme going around currently.

You've never been. Well, he's actually been many times. And he's the president and founder of an

organization called the Vulnerable People's Project, serving the most oppressed and marginalized minorities all over the Middle East and the world.

And so the goal of this interview is to provide a perspective for Americans that are between the most extreme elements of the conflict going on right now to actually help people understand what's really going on.

Basically, where I'm at, and I feel like a lot of our audience is when it comes to the Middle East

in general is I think people are very well-meaning. I don't know if everyone feels like they're

getting great information. Seeing your track record in history literally being boots on the ground

to defend the human dignity

and the vulnerable of Christians in the Middle East, but everywhere, Africa, et cetera,

I really wanted to speak to someone that's done work on behalf of people that have been

directly impacted by foreign policy, American foreign policy, what we're paying.

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