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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Frugal Fatigue Is Real: How to Stop Saving Burnout and Start Spending on Purpose

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet Personal Finance

Investing, Education, Business, How To

4.3892 Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Learn how to build a budget with room for fun so you can save money without guilt. How can you save toward big goals without letting frugality turn into burnout? How do you stop shaming yourself for spending on fun? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola respond to a listener named Michael who’s skipping trips, staying in, and feeling guilty whenever they spend. Joined by personal finance writer Kim Palmer, they unpack frugal fatigue and money shame, explore how “money stories” and scarcity mindset can fuel obsessive saving, and share practical ways to budget for joy. Want us to review your budget? Fill out this form — completely anonymously if you want — and we might feature your budget in a future segment! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScK53yAufsc4v5UpghhVfxtk2MoyooHzlSIRBnRxUPl3hKBig/viewform?usp=header To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:03.1

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0:08.4

We help you handle the have-to-dos so you can focus on the can't-wait-to-dos.

0:13.2

It's a new workday.

0:15.1

Hey, Sean, what's the last thing you treated yourself to?

0:18.3

I had a week recently where I accidentally bought three pairs of running shoes.

0:22.8

What? Three. I don't know if I told you I'm going to be running around Mountain Hood over the

0:27.7

summer. And so I'm training and I need a few different pairs of shoes to prepare for that.

0:31.6

Today we'll be chatting about treating yourself and how to balance it with savings goals, which I am doing,

0:36.4

by the way.

0:45.9

Welcome to NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast, where you send us your money questions and we answer them with the help of our genius nerds.

0:46.7

I'm Sean Piles.

0:48.6

And I'm Elizabeth Ayola.

0:56.2

This episode's question comes from a listener named Michael, buy text, and it's about balancing, budgeting,

1:02.5

and treating yourself. Here it goes. Hi, NerdWallet. Essentially, I have my savings goals,

1:08.6

and I'm working to meet them. However, because of this, I often don't go out, go on fun trips,

1:13.3

a.k.a. treat myself. I usually stay inside, eat cheap meals, and shame myself on any money that I spend. What do you recommend I can do to help me enjoy life a little

1:18.6

and not obsess about my savings goals to my detriment? Thanks. To help us answer Michael's question,

1:25.2

on this episode of Smart Money, we're joined by personal finance writer Kim Palmer.

1:29.1

Hey, welcome back to Smart Money, Kim.

1:30.7

Hi, Sean and Elizabeth.

1:32.1

Thank you so much for having me.

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