Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm your host Sarah Isger with a special Friday episode of

the Dispatch Podcast. I'm joined today by Steve Hayes and Jonathan Carl, ABC's Chief White House

correspondent and author of the New York Times bestseller, Front Row at the Trump Show.

John has unique insights into this presidency. He first interviewed Donald Trump in the mid 1990s.

We'll talk to him about being a reporter at the Trump White House and how this presidency

has changed the way we think about politics. We even talk a little George Orwell.

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And with that, let's dive right in. John, thanks for coming.

Thanks for having me. This is great. Have you been pleased with the reception of the book so far?

I was petrified at the idea of having a book come out when every bookstore in America was closed.

I had to cancel all these carefully planned book events and of course the book party.

But all that's obviously not significant when you look at all that else is going on in the

country. So I can't really feel sorry for myself, but it has been.

And you sold out on Amazon.

I sold out on Amazon. We just found out, I give you some breaking news, just found out that we

made the New York Times bestseller list for the third week in a row.

And we actually went up from last week. So that's good.

But what's been gratifying to me is that people seem to be reading the book and

sending notes over various social media stuff. And I'm used to getting a lot of nasty stuff on

places like Twitter, but I've actually gotten some really good feedback on the book.

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