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Well, welcome back to another episode of the Vertical Podcast, and we have a really good podcast for you coming up today.

Double guest episode, that's right.

Two guests here for the price of one.

And we begin with Bobby Marks, the front office insider for the vertical, former assistant GM with the Brooklyn Nets,

covered a lot of ground with Bobby, including is there any upside for the Cleveland Cavaliers to flip Kevin Love for Carmelo Anthony?

Yeah, I don't think it makes any sense for Cleveland to even dip their toe in the deep end here regarding

Carmelo Anthony. I mean, if you want to get a conversation going, if I was David Griffin,

the general manager, I'd ask for a first round pickback.

And later on in the show, I catch up with Mike Schmitz from Draftexpress.com.

Mike is one of the foremost draft experts out there. You can catch his videos, his scouting

reports, all that up on Draft Express. And Mike's got some strong opinions on a lot of guys here,

including the guy that is viewed as the consensus number one pick right now, Washington point

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