We are now live on the Conversations That Matter Podcast.

Hope everyone's doing well out there on this Monday night.

I hear the crickets outside right now in New York and it's a beautiful sound, let tell you so if you ever get a chance I mean I guess that's probably the case in most parts of the country

There's crickets right now, but I don't know with the fireflies in the crickets especially right now it's just a wonderful time

But I want to introduce we have two guests today who have a background in the word of faith movement and some of you have asked me before John can you talk about

prosperity gospel word of faith and I've I've just said like I think there's a lot of

ministries doing good work in that area interesting enough, yesterday I talked to someone, I won't say who or where, but I did have a

conversation with someone and it threw me because this person had been influenced in some way by Benny Hen and it was in a place that I just did not think

Benny Hen's influence had reached really and it did get me to thinking a little bit about that

Maybe there are people, even in my audience,

who are taken in by some of that stuff.

Maybe you were attracted to this podcast

because you saw an episode I did on,

I don't know you know cultural Christianity but you're not you

you're not reformed and you're maybe you're in that word of faith movement and I thought

you know it would be good to do an episode on it and I was

talking to Joel Webb in this morning he's one of our guests and and he agreed to come on and

talk about it and then also my friend Andrew Rappaport is here and I'll just introduce you guys both real quick.

You can add to this if you want, but I'll start with you Andrew.

Andrew is the is it president of striving for eternity is president the right word president

founder executive director I don't know what what title I have okay you're the yeah

you're in charge of striving for eternity ministries and actually Andrew's also going to be speaking at the retreat coming up which everyone should sign up for it overcoming evil conference.com and that's a immense retreat in the Adirondic Mountains.

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