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Pints With Aquinas

From Witchcraft to Jesus Christ (Shayne Smith) | Ep. 576

Pints With Aquinas

Matt Fradd

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.87K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2026

⏱️ 196 minutes

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Ex-Satanist turned Catholic convert, Shayne Smith, returns for a wide-ranging conversation sharing his past involvement with the occult, thoughts on why the Catholic church is more popular than ever and insight into the life of a comedian.  Ep. 576 - - - 📚 Resources Mentioned: Shayne Smith Comedy: https://www.shaynesmithcomedy.com/ Shayne Smith Tour Dates: https://punchup.live/shaynesmith/tour Instagram: @ShaDozer, https://www.instagram.com/shaydozer/?hl=en - - - Today's Sponsors: Quo: Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to https://Quo.com/PINTS Charity Mobile: Visit https://charitymobile.com/MATTFRADD to get started. Free Phone offer with code MATTFRADD Shopify: Sign up for your $1-per-month trial and start selling today at https://Shopify.com/pints Seven Weeks Coffee: Save up to 25% with promo code 'PINTS' at https://sevenweekscoffee.com/PINTS Exodus 90: Download the Exodus 90 app to start your 14-Day free trial or visit https://Exodus90.com/matt to learn more. - - - Become a Daily Wire Member and watch all of our content ad-free: ⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/subscribe⁠⁠ 📲 Download the free Daily Wire app today on iPhone, Android, Roku, Apple TV, Samsung, and more. - - - 📕 Get my newest book, Jesus Our Refuge, here: https://a.co/d/bDU0xLb 🍺 Want to Support Pints With Aquinas? 🍺 Get episodes a week early and join exclusive live streams with me! Become an annual supporter at 👉 ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://mattfradd.locals.com/support⁠⁠⁠⁠ - - - 💻 Follow Me on Social Media: 📌 Facebook: https://facebook.com/mattfradd 📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/mattfradd 𝕏 Twitter/X: ⁠⁠⁠https://twitter.com/Pints_W_Aquinas⁠⁠⁠ 🎵 TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://tiktok.com/@pintswithaquinas⁠⁠⁠ 📚 PWA Merch – ⁠⁠⁠https://dwplus.shop/MattFraddMerch⁠⁠ 👕 Grab your favorite PWA gear here: https://shop.pintswithaquinas.com - - - Privacy Policy: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.dailywire.com/privacy⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I feel like you became Catholic about five seconds before it became cool. Do you think I made it cool? Maybe it was you. It must be weird to be expected to be funny. Yeah. You show up at a place and they're like, we're so stoked you're here. This is gonna be our funniest episode of all time. Like, I'm not doing bits, dude. I'm just here to be me. Tell me about why someone would cut their nose off for magic and what the point is there. It's about sacrifice. It's a mockery of the sacrifice to God. Black magic, I'm like, oh, it's all, you're just doing reverse Catholicism. You guys are obsessed with us. After shows, I started to have people confront me and be like, I want my money back. No, you haven't. Yes. Tell me how that conversation goes.

0:39.1

The obsession with balance in marriage is gone.

0:41.9

You're not two people, you're one person.

0:43.7

There's nothing balanced about this.

0:45.3

I want to get to the point where I wake up and I want to interpret reality based on what my wife and kids need.

0:51.4

But I know that if I did do that, I could actually finally be happy.

0:55.3

I know.

0:55.8

I mean,

0:59.8

So what's the difference between the sugar-free?

1:09.6

Yeah, this is zero sugar, but why do you care?

1:11.6

I mean, if you're drinking a red bowl, a bed roll, a bed roll, if you drink two bed rolls a day, that adds up quick.

1:19.6

With sugar.

1:20.6

That could be, that's like a meal.

1:21.6

But what about the, I mean, the caffeine alone will kill you, won't it?

1:24.6

Yeah.

1:25.6

Let's see.

1:26.6

I'm here for a good time, not a long time, sir. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can't tell the sugar in that. It's very sweet. It's very strong. I haven't had a Red Bull in a minute. Or a bed roll. A bed roll. Yeah, this is good. Dude, we're going get fired up. About halfway through the podcast. We're gonna take our shirts off. Stick around. It's gonna be great. You're just gonna have your jacket tied to your forehead. We're sweating. This is good. Oh man. Thanks for coming on again. It's always nice to talk to people I want to talk to. I know it, right? Right. Yeah. Unlike that other guy, everyone who's watching the show is like, hey, I was on his show. I know. It's the thing where you go, you always say like something professionally nice about someone and then you think to yourself, what if the other people I'm professional with? But then you go, if they're being insecure, then they know it's them. That's on them. That's on them. I'll be honest, though. I don't, people

2:18.7

don't believe me when I tell them this, but I just interview who I want to talk to. Yeah. And that's, it really works for me because I don't have a poker face. So if I don't want to talk to you, I don't know how to pretend. I think I've, well, no, I know I've seen you talk to people you don't want to talk to you. I don't think I've ever

2:34.1

watched on a show or in person? In person.

2:36.6

I've seen you talk to people you don't want to talk to you. I don't think I've ever watched on a show or in person? In person. I've seen you in person talk to quite a few people where you're like, mm-hmm. And you're very gracious and kind. Oh, that's good. But I see myself in you, which is why. Really? I'm watching you absorb the encounter and maybe it's a little awkward or inappropriate or strange and you're so gracious

2:52.2

but I can feel you kind of shifting gears you know what I mean and do you watch me look at

2:59.7

and you look at me and go am I like that yes yes that's exactly what I do I look at you and I go hmm

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