Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

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Hello everyone. Today on the show we have Haley Krisher. Haley is the author of the adult novel, Where Are You, Echo Blue? And the YAA novel, Something Happened to Allie Greenleaf, The Falling Girls, and You Belong to Me, which came out in April 2025.

Haley is an award-winning journalist who is written for The New York Times, The Atlantic,

Elle, and Moore. She has an MFA from Leslie University, and Haley lives in New Jersey with her family. She's going to be

talking to us today about the wellness industry. And in the show notes, there will be a link to

the show that I was on called Unwell on Netflix. It was a documentary in 2020, talking about how getting involved in the wellness

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