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Amanpour

From Washington's Shutdown to Afghanistan's Internet Blackout

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 4 October 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

From abroad, the chaos in Washington resonates far and wide, as the U.S. government shuts down, with Democrats going to the mat for American's healthcare. Just as the shutdown took place, Christiane spoke with Democratic Senator Jeanne Shaheen who has worked towards bipartisan consensus for more than thirty years but also believes it's time to mount an effective opposition to some of Trump's policies. Then, director Benny Safdie talks to Christiane about making his new film, "The Smashing Machine," dealing with loss and transforming Dwayne Johnson, aka "The Rock," into a mixed martial artist. Plus, another blow for Afghanistan's women after the internet was shut down in the country for days. Amanda Davies has a special report on the exiled girls fighting for freedom through football. And, defying bombs and presidential warnings to break the news, former CNN chief, Tom Johnson speaks to Christian about his new book, "Driven," dealing with depression and how he led CNN through a golden age despite a nightmarish job interview with Ted Turner and Jane Fonda. Then, after a total and sudden internet blackout by the Taliban in Afghanistan this week, from her archives, shortly after 9/11, when the U.S. and its allies sent the Taliban and Al-Qaeda packing, Christiane's 2001 report about what it was like when TV and satellite were finally brought back. And finally, remembering the remarkable life of primatologist Jane Goodall,  Christiane revisits her conversation with the woman who changed our understanding of the world. Air date: October 4th, 2025 Guests: Jeanne Shaheen Benny Safdie  Tom Johnson  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Tony Shalub loves bread. On his new CNN original series, he's traveling the world to see how bread is the most delicious way to bring people and cultures together.

0:10.0

Tony Shalub, Breaking Bread, premieres Sunday, October 5th on CNN.

0:23.8

Hello and welcome to the Ammanport Hour.

0:25.3

Here's where we're headed this week.

0:30.9

As the US government shuts down, Democrats go to the mat for Americans' health care.

0:33.2

My conversation with Senator Jean Shaheen.

0:33.9

Then... Mark!

0:37.4

The Smashing Machine, director Ben Safdi, on his acclaimed new film about mixed martial arts,

0:44.3

with Dwayne the Rock Johnson and finding the heart beneath all that muscle.

0:49.3

Also ahead.

0:50.3

When the bombs did fall, CNN was still up live.

0:55.4

Defying bombs and presidential warnings to break the news.

0:59.4

I speak to CNN's former president, Tom Johnson, about his memoir, Driven.

1:04.3

Plus, as the Taliban shuts down Afghanistan's Internet from my archive,

1:08.9

a bittersweet look back to the last time the country

1:12.1

freed itself from the Taliban's tech crackdown. And finally, what Jane Goodall told me about

1:18.5

proving people wrong on animal intelligence and falling in love with Tarzan. Welcome to the program, everyone.

1:28.9

I'm Christiana Manpur in London.

1:31.3

From abroad, the chaos in Washington resonates far and wide.

1:35.3

Are there other democracies whose governments go into total shutdown?

1:39.3

It happened in the United States this week for the first time in six years,

1:43.3

and the crises are piling up.

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