Yo, welcome to another episode of In A Minute with Evan Lovett, coming to you live from the IAM

studios in the heart of Los Angeles. And I am here with Matt Gutman, the chief national correspondent for ABC News, award-winning reporter,

reporter with a lot of guts and a lot of heart, and hustle and just a great, excellent guest

here.

And perhaps most importantly, at least for these purposes, the host of the podcast, Devil in the Desert.

And dare I say, the number one podcast over the summer, because this is a true crime podcast

that captivated me, my family, my colleagues, everybody throughout the country.

And it's a story that spans Los Angeles,

even though it begins south of L.A. in Newport

and ends, well, continues north of Los Angeles out in the Mojave Desert.

But in between, there's a lot of Los Angeles.

And Matt is here in Los Angeles to talk about the podcast and his career. And he is a really, really fascinating guy. So I can't wait to get into this. Matt, thank you for being here. Really appreciate you. It's so good to be. What happened to the what is up? I feel like I'm shortchanged here. You know, if there's no official what is up? I'll be honest with you. It's funny.

I have a sort of duality. Within the podcast, I try not to use the hooks as much, as much.

All right. So, but we will give it. What is up, Matt Gutman? Thank you for being here. I appreciate you.

And also, what is up to our sponsor,

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