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Wow, what's up, everybody? Happy Monday, too. Yeah, so glad you're back. I have a fantastic

interview for you today. Dennis Geelen is a guy I met on Twitter. X, whatever we call

it these days. I don't know when we're going to make that transition, but eventually it's

just going to be X, but for those who are under a rock and don't use that platform, they

changed the name to X. But for now, we'll call it Twitter X. But anyway, I met this guy,

Dennis, on on social media. And I don't remember how we met it was, but I liked his content.

And then he made a post about, about how five years ago, he got laid off from his job

and he took a chance on himself and ended up doing really well, first in consulting,

doing one-on-one consulting for corporations, and then later on moving into doing coaching

for people who wanted to be like him, who wanted to start their own consulting companies.

And it falls right in line with a lot of what we've been talking about here over the last

few weeks. This idea that start now, start building that second income stream because

nobody ever thinks it's going to happen to them. Nobody ever thinks they're going

to get laid off. And if they get some inkling in the back of their mind, they're always

thinking, wow, no, it's not me. But Dennis exemplifies what we've been talking about and what

I believe is necessary. And what anyone can do to build a business that they can run

on their own, what we, you know, we've been talking about this before about entrepreneurial

minimalism, about creating a business that generates more time freedom and more income

mobility for you. And so I want you to listen what this has to say. And I hope you enjoy

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