From TikTok to 小红书

Today, Explained

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🗓️ 24 January 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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TikTok's uncertain future has driven a flood of users to a fully Chinese social media app full of opportunities for genuine cultural exchange. And it's given fresh fodder for proponents of a decentralized social media ecosystem known as the fediverse. This episode was produced by Travis Larchuk, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Patrick Boyd and Rob Byers, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members A logo for Xiaohongshu, aka RedNote, and a TikTok logo displayed on smartphone screens in China. Photo by VCG/VCG via Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	TikTok is in a state of flux.
0:03.4	About a week ago, it disappeared for about 14 hours, even though it didn't have to.
0:07.8	Goodbye forever.
0:08.9	Then it came back and sent everyone in the United States essentially a Trump ad.
0:13.5	China. China.
0:14.3	And then Trump enters office and signs an executive order saying he's going to kick the TikTok deadline down the road, but no one knows
0:20.9	if that's constitutional.
0:22.3	Oh, yay, oh, yay.
0:23.6	In the meantime, a bunch of Americans downloaded a way more Chinese app called Red Note,
0:28.1	and some of them started pledging allegiance to Xi Jinping and the Chinese Communist Party.
0:34.1	No joke.
0:35.4	So we're waiting in line wanting to hand our data to China.
0:39.3	Long live China, long live Xi Jinping, big up to Mao Zedong.
0:43.3	China is the best country in the entire world!
0:45.3	I love China so much!
0:47.3	First off, Mandarin is amazing.
0:48.3	Second off, the Chinese Communist Party, yes,
0:50.3	communist is the best government in the entire world, most transparent government in the
0:54.4	entire world.
0:55.0	We're going to ask why on today, Explained.
1:00.0	Okay, business leaders, are you here to play or are you playing to win?
1:04.3	If you're in it to win, meet your next MVP.
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