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Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind.

My name is Robert Lamb.

We have a vault episode for you here today.

This one originally published 410, 2025.

I'm going to speak with Patricia Cachian, author of Forest Euphoria, The Abounding Queerness of Nature.

This is a really fun chat.

I found the book super engaging, and this is a topic that I think everyone out there should consider.

Gets it to some interesting territory where we think about the way that we approach our understanding of the natural world

and what sort of linguistic and cultural baggage we have historically brought into that

understanding and what we could do to correct it. So let's dive right into this

interview. Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of IHeart Radio.

Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind. My name is Robert Lamb. In today's episode, I'll be speaking with Patricia Kachian about her upcoming book, Forest Euphoria, The Abounding Queerness of Nature, publishing next month and available for pre-order right now in all formats. You'll find a pre-order link in the episode description

for this podcast episode, or you can look it up at speakle and growl.com slash forest-hyphen euphoria.

So it's a fun chat. We discuss queer ecology, some amazing examples from nature, and even

brief discussion of the TV show

The Last Office. So without further ado, let's jump right in.

Hi, Patty. Welcome to the show. Hi. Thanks for having me. So the new book is Forest Euphoria,

the abounding queerness of nature, a captivating text that melds

scientific consideration of ecology and biodiversity with personal experience and insight.

Tell us, how did this project come together?

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