Hey everybody Stephen here. We're taking a summer break this week from talking, but you don't have to take a break from listening because we're featuring a couple of our favorite interviews from the Energy Gang and the interchange.

First up is an Energy Gang segment with Ashley Vance, who's a Bloomberg reporter and the author of the 2015 book called Elon Musk, Tesla, SpaceX, and the quest for a fantastic future.

Firstly, if you haven't read that book, go read it.

It really helped me understand Musk fully as a person

and as a mission-driven CEO.

And even though so much has happened in the last two years since that book was

published, it is still just as relevant. In the second half, we're going to dig into the

interchange vaults and serve up a conversation between me and Shale Khan about what the grid may look like in 2030.

It's like a geeky grid fan fiction.

This is back when the interchange was behind the paywall, so I'm sure most of you haven't heard

it.

And you've also got to read Shales accompanying piece, which you'll find right there in the show

notes as always.

Before I roll the tape, a big thank you to Mission Solar.

This podcast is brought to you, of course, by Mission Solar Energy,

which is a solar module manufacturer based in San Antonio, Texas.

Mission Solar operates a 260 megawatt facility right here in America.

Through state-of-the-art engineering and outstanding quality, Mission Solar's modules, every single

one of which is made in their Texas facility, offer world-class

performance and guaranteed long-term reliability.

Visit Mission Solar at the upcoming Solar Power International Conference at Booth 3975. You can find out more about

Mission's high-powered modules at Mission Solar.com. And one last impassioned plea,

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