Hey, this is Karen. And before I play this episode from The Vault, I just want to say thank you for being so

patient and kind the last two weeks as things have gotten a little crazy around here. But everything is good.

And we're recording a shiny new episode for you. I also wanted to tell you you're going to be happy that we have some new merch that is

really funny and we love it.

That'll be coming next week as well as announcing the candle winners who did reviews

for us.

Um, please go ahead and review the podcast.

It really helps us with visibility.

And then lastly, if you're a sponsor,

look in your mailbox because we're going to be doing a big hair Zoom party this weekend.

Laura Shamblin, nope, Gwynne Shamblin, Laura's style.

Yeah, that's it.

And so, yeah, just check in your spam if you don't see it in your regular one.

And without further ado, the next requested episode follows.

Welcome to Deconversion Therapy.

Music Hey, so in case you guys didn't know, you can change your background for Zoom calls because Karen and I look at each other.

So she put a background up with me as a child sitting in my grandfather's chair

with my shoes off. So I'm looking at her, but I keep focusing on my toes as a child. And I suppose

one was aiming at a different angle because it looks like my second and third toe are huge compared to the big toe.

And that's not true.

Anyway, you have to say.

Thanks for that, Karen.

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