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From the Second Intifada to October 7th (with Daniel Gordis)

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🗓️ 1 January 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Over the 25 years he's lived in Israel, author Daniel Gordis of Shalem College has seen many chapters of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, beginning with the Second Intifada that followed the Oslo Accords. Listen as he and EconTalk's Russ Roberts discuss why Hamas's massacre of October 7th is different and is an existential threat to Israel. They also speak about why Israelis are demanding a different response to Hamas than they have in the past, and how and why this war will change Israel and the Jewish people.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, Conversations for the Curious, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.

0:08.0

I'm your host Russ Roberts of Shalem College in Jerusalem and Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Go to Econ Talk. in to today's conversation. You'll also find our archives with every episode we've done

0:24.5

going back to 2006. Our email address is mail at econ talk.org we'd love to hear from you. Today is December 3rd, 2023, my guest is Daniel Gordis of Shalem College.

0:42.0

Daniel is the correct distinguished fellow here at

0:44.8

Shalam his substack Israel from the inside is an extraordinary window into

0:49.6

what is happening here I encourage you to. Daniel's last year in April of

0:54.8

2023 discussing his latest book, Impossible, Takes Longer. That conversation

1:00.6

began with a 40-minute overview of Israeli history, which I strongly

1:03.8

recommend. Today we're going to talk about two things, how the events of October 7th and the war

1:08.8

that followed have changed you Danny and your perspective on this country and then we'll turn to the question

1:14.4

of how the country has changed in response to the war and maybe where it's headed.

1:18.3

Danny, welcome to Econ Talk.

1:20.3

Thanks for having the rest.

1:21.4

Great to be back. And you've been living here for 25 years. Thanks for

1:24.1

25 years.

1:25.1

You've been living here for 25 years.

1:25.1

You moved here in 1998 from Los Angeles and you published a

1:29.2

remarkable book, a very powerful book titled,

1:33.6

If a Place Can Make You Cry Dispatches

1:36.2

from An Anxious State.

1:37.8

I strongly recommend it.

1:39.4

You moved your family from Los Angeles

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