"From the River to the Sea" Means Freedom and Equality for All, Not Genocide of Jews / Stephen Zunes

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🗓️ 18 June 2024

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Past guest Stephen Zunes returns to speak with us about his recent Truthout writing including, "Biden Continues to Provide Israel Billions for War Crimes," "Biden’s Response to Israel’s ICC Prosecution Is an Attack on International Law," and "Don’t Buy the Right-Wing Disinformation Campaign on “From the River to the Sea.” Stephen is a professor of Politics at the University of San Francisco, who is currently the Torgny Segerstedt Visiting Research professor at the Gothenburg University in Sweden. "Rotten History" follows the interview. Check out Stephen's articles here: https://truthout.org/articles/biden-continues-to-provide-israel-billions-for-war-crimes/ https://truthout.org/articles/bidens-response-to-israels-icc-prosecution-is-an-attack-on-international-law/ https://truthout.org/articles/dont-buy-the-right-wing-disinformation-campaign-on-from-the-river-to-the-sea/ Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access weekly bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thisishell

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0:00.0	I'm going to go and The Lord is with the Lord is with the
0:15.0	the Lord is with the
0:16.0	God God.
0:20.0	Big a job. Oh, no, no. This is hell.
0:45.4	The United States has been continuously at war for a very, very long time and this is hell imagine being charged with a crime
0:57.4	arrested put on trial convicted and sentenced to a prison term for a crime that you do not believe you committed.
1:05.0	While in prison you decide to study law in order to find a legal argument for your release.
1:11.0	But once you make any sort of public announcement of your intentions, a few more years
1:15.8	are tacked on to your prison sentence for daring to question what you have determined was
1:20.9	an injustice. It seems preposterous that a criminal justice system
1:26.0	would make someone seeking justice a crime. However in many ways that is what supporters of freedom, fairness, liberty, and equality are experiencing right now when they make demands for peace.
1:40.0	And all they get is more punishment.
1:43.0	As our guest today argues from the river to the sea,
1:46.0	Palestine will be free is not the anti-Semitic trope.
1:50.0	Conservatives in both parties are making it out to be.
1:53.0	Turns out that according to today's guest,
1:55.0	the phrase originally came from secular Palestinian nationalists
1:59.0	in the 1960s calling for a democratic secular state
2:02.0	within the boundaries of what was the
2:03.6	British mandate for Palestine encompassing Israel, the then Jordanian controlled
2:08.7	West Bank, and the then Egyptian administered Gaza Strip, that is the lands between the Jordan River
2:15.3	and the Mediterranean Sea. The phrase was a call for a democratic secular state,
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