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The Two Matts

From the horse’s mouth - Behind the scenes with one of the world’s great diplomats

The Two Matts

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News, News Commentary, Government, Politics

4.4523 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

The Matts are joined by João Vale De Almeida, whose 40 year career as a diplomat has seen him represent the EU in the United States, the United Nations and … thanks to Brexit … as history’s first ever EU ambassador to the UK. João’s new book - The Divorce of Nations - could not be more timely; an exhilarating ride through the political turmoil of this century so far. Why did America turn inwards economically? What drives Vladimir Putin? How and when could the UK ever hope to return to the European Union? And what is the future of the EU itself? All this and more in an engrossing conversation with a man who has seen it all … and still remains an optimist! Enjoy


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0:00.0

Hi there, this is Matt Kelly, the editor-in-chief of the New European newspaper and one half of the

0:05.9

two mats podcast. Just before we get into the podcast, I want to run past you a proposal. I know that many

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1:53.0

The... one you're listening to right now. Welcome, dear listeners, happy Tuesday to you all.

1:56.5

We are delighted to be joined by Zhao Valley Jalmida, live from Brussels.

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