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🗓️ 6 October 2021
⏱️ 50 minutes
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| 0:47.2 | Hi, my name is Luisa Lim. I'm the author of the piece you're about to listen to, which I co-wrote |
| 0:52.1 | with Julia Bergen. The background is that I was a foreign correspondent in China for 10 years, |
| 0:58.7 | reporting for the BBC in NPR. Then I left China to teach journalism in universities after writing |
| 1:05.5 | a book about Tiananmen. While I was teaching, I started to see all these trends emerging, |
| 1:11.5 | started to see China's state-run media really expanding very fast overseas and increasing numbers |
| 1:18.8 | of non-Chinese people working for Chinese state-run media, including former colleagues at the BBC |
| 1:25.2 | who were leaving in numbers at a certain point to go and work for CCTV or CGTN, China's international |
| 1:33.3 | broadcaster. We decided to try and write a story that joined up these dots and charted what was |
| 1:41.1 | happening in all these different places around the world. When we started writing it, we realized |
| 1:47.7 | that you could see this shift from what had been quite an insular defensive internal propaganda |
| 1:53.6 | strategy, which was based on censorship, to a far more aggressive one, which was really looking at |
| 1:59.8 | changing the narrative about China outside China and really doing so by reshaping the entire global |
| 2:06.8 | news landscape. Looking back from the standpoint of today, the interesting thing is right at the very |
| 2:13.3 | end of the piece, we spoke to an analyst called Sarah Cook from Freedom House, and she gave this |
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