Hey everybody, Greg Laurie here. You're listening to the Greg Laurie podcast. And my objective is to

deliver hopefully compelling practical insights and faith, culture, and current events from a Biblical

perspective to find out more about our ministry. Just go to our website harvest.org. So thanks for

joining me for this podcast. This interview you're going to hear with this man of God is unlike

anything you've ever heard before. In fact, some of the things that he will say will surprise you,

but in a good way, but it gives you some insights into who he is. You might say, well, wait,

I've never heard of Chuck Smith. Well, I don't know what planet you're from, but just in case you

haven't, let me tell you a little bit about him. You've heard of the Jesus movement, right? It was

like a mighty wave that swept to the church in the late 60s and early 70s. And for all practical

purposes, change the course of the church and the 20th and the 21st century. During the Jesus

movement, contemporary Christian music was born during the Jesus movement, contemporary praise,

and worship music was effectively born during the Jesus movement. There was a return for many churches

to Bible exposition, maybe a more relaxed attitude toward how people dressed and making it more

about the heart than the way you looked. And I think it was a bonafide legitimate spiritual

awakening. And at the forefront, or should I say at the epicenter of it all was pastor Chuck Smith.

In fact, he has been referred to as the father of the Jesus movement. So he was certainly there.

And after it had diminished to some degree in other areas of the country, the Jesus movement

continued on in great power there at the church. He pastors in Southern California,

Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa. All right. Well, let's listen now as you and pastor Chuck spend some

time talking. The church was packed. Overflow facilities were full and so many were watching online

that it maxed out the system. Let's listen. I just reread your book, your autobiography,

a memoir of grace. And it almost felt like a story out of the Bible. You know, when I look at how

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